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Project vs. Product: Frenemies or Power Duo? What PMs Can Learn From PMs to Succeed in 2025

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Host

Galen is a digital project manager with over 10 years of experience shaping and delivering human-centered digital transformation initiatives in government, healthcare, transit, and retail. He is a digital project management nerd, a cultivator of highly collaborative teams, and an impulsive sharer of knowledge. He's also the co-founder of The Digital Project Manager and host of The DPM Podcast.

Guest

Jesse is an executive consultant who has taught and coached thousands of leaders and professionals in fourteen countries on five continents. He has founded three professional association communities, chaired or contributed to five agile certifications and six project management standards. He chairs the upcoming edition of the PMBOK Guide (2025), the premier global standard from the Project Management Institute.

Guest

Jackie has deep expertise in technology and digital product, and is passionate about helping teams design experiences that improve people’s lives. Before launching her Facilitation and Strategy practice in 2017, she spent ten years in product leadership at two digital product firms, guiding groups through the development of new business ideas and bringing them to market. She’s also a speaker, coach, and the co-author of the Remote Design Sprint Guide.

Guest

Evie is a Product Management Coach & Consultant. She’s implemented best in class Product Practices for over 20 companies in the last 8 years. she's worked with global brands like TUI, Channel 4, Megabus & Booking.com to grow in product maturity, 10x their impact, launch re-brands & optimize their ways of working.

Guest

Freelance Growth Product Manager and Innovation Manager, Mentor & Consultant

Phil is a PM and advisor with 12+ years in product roles. He helps founders, PMs, and techies level up & build confidence, enabling them to deliver the right thing the right way at the right time. From his journey as a Product Manager to Consultant and now a Creator, he has developed effective systems and a structured approach that have been tried, tested, and trusted by over 800 students and clients.